“Bad” Christians

So, to reverse the process of the question asked two days ago, Chickadee wonders, “Can you be a Christian and not have a biblical worldview?”

What say you?

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9 responses to ““Bad” Christians

  1. I think for sure you can be a Christian and not have a Biblical world view. Why aren’t we helping the sick, poor, and orphaned in our own communities? Look at all the Christians in the church who think their duty is done once they walk out the doors? I love the saying just above the doors in our church that says something to the effect of “you are now entering the mission field”. Your Christian world view starts right here at home in how you treat those around you. If you look down on your neighbors because they are poor rather than trying to get to know them and maybe helping them out with any skills you might have then your world view is off.
    I know I struggle with the big picture world view, what do we do about Darfur, Myanmar/Burma, Iraq, etc. But I know that I really can’t do much there where I am now. But as a teacher I know I can instill in my kids and my own children to look out for others. And maybe someday one of them will be a powerful politician who can actually make a huge difference.
    Your worldview starts at home and I don’t think there are really a lot of Christians today who have an accurate worldview.

  2. Absolutely! I know sincere believers who have simply not been taught to think biblically. Christians, because of this lack of good teaching, often view the world the way the world does — compartmentalizing their faith, etc. That’s why the teaching of a biblical worldview is so important, and it’s why I feel the urgency I’m feeling these days. It’s why we need to know our Bibles and train our children to know theirs and view it as our final authority.

  3. Rose Bexar

    A lot of people have gotten very good at compartmentalizing. They keep their faith in one compartment and their intellect in another, and never the twain shall meet; they don’t seem to notice, for instance, that the philosophical and theological implications of Darwinism are wholly incompatable with a Biblical faith in Christ. There are also people who have accepted Jesus as their Savior but don’t want to take the next step and acknowledge Him as Lord. And then there are cultural Christians–they go to church because that’s What We Do On Sunday, make all the right noises, participate in all the right activities, but never actually walk the talk.
    We could debate all day long whether such people are truly Christians, but really, only God knows for sure if they have a real saving faith. What we *can* say for certain is that it is possible to *consider* yourself a Christian without having a Biblical worldview.

  4. Kevin

    1. What does it mean to have a Christian world-view?
    2. What does it mean to be a Christian?

    Answer those and you have the answer.

    Answers??
    1. Hold exactly those beliefs that God wants you to hold.

    2. Have faith in Christ

    Certainly, #1 includes #2, but #2 is not exhaustive of #1. We probably all fail to do #1 and some people hold some of the beliefs under #1 without holding #2.

    Examples:
    Some non-Christians believe God exists, which is certainly a part of a Christian world-view.

    Some Christians doubtlessly believe truth is relative yet trust in Christ for their salvation. Actually, I think any Christian with an inconsistent set of beliefs fails to meet #1, for truth is consistent. And, who is completely consistent in all their beliefs? I’m sure I have something wrong.

  5. To a degree, yes. There is the fundamental basic that Christ died for our sins that we might live that needs to be understood, or you cannot be Christian.

    After that, I think it is a process. But if you have been in the faith for 15 years and have not progressed beyond that, I think there is a problem.

  6. kim

    I see Christians on a continuum:

    On one end, you have those that are saved, they believe in Jesus and have accepted Him into their hearts, and it has never gone past that….HOPEFULLY the reason is because they are new to Christianity, and may hold opinions and behavioral patterns from before Christ entered their life, and not enough time has lapsed for change to occur. Then there are people stuck here, for much longer than should be, for many reasons.

    The other end of the continuum is the Christian who’s mind, perspectives, opinions and behaviors are lock step with Jesus…this person lives and breathes in a WWJD mentality, unfortunately, no such person exists…but it is what a Christian should seek to be.

    In between lies most true Christians. While it would be nice to believe that when Jesus enters our heart we *poof* become Christ like, but it is not that way, it is a process. Luckily, salvation is a *poof* kinda thing, and doesnt wait for us to be perfect!!

    Each Christian is also a human being, a sinner, a fallen creation. We all struggle with beliefs and ways that were ingrained during childhood by our parents, teachers and mentors, reinforced via our culture and the media, and further devoloped through our own sinful thoughts and selfish ways.

    So, for those reasons, no Christian has a pefect Biblical perspective…but hopefully most of us are getting there, and pressing forward to see things through the eyes of Jesus.

  7. Clearly, Romans 12:2 indicates that learning to think as Christ would have us do is a process, like the rest of our sanctification, and one in which we must cooperate.

    That still leaves the question of to what degree it can operate independently of sanctification of the rest of us. Can you be *acting* as a mature believer without *thinking* as one, or vice versa? Although some people have greater spiritual and mental gifts for analysis and explanations–and others have gifts in other areas–it seems like belief and practice can never diverge too far. That in itself is a good reminder in teaching children, not to try to hone “worldview” in isolation from spiritual growth, or vice versa.

  8. Definitely! I know quite a few Christians who do not have a biblical worldview. A biblical worldview is the result of studying the Word, continuous prayer, and seeking first the Kingdom of God. Even when all that is done, we all still look at some things from a world view instead of a biblical one. So did the disciples, and they saw Christ face to face.

  9. graceful

    Yes, because the prerequisites of being a Christian and having a Christian worldview are vastly different. One involves repenting and trusting Christ, while the other involves education (not formal education, but education none the less). Those are two very different things!

    However, now that I think about it, if someone knows enough about Christ to repent and believe in him I would have to say that most believers DO have the beginning of a Christian worldview – because acknowledging the reality of Christ and his kingdom is certainly the ultimate cornerstone of a Christian worldview. Because a Christian worldview exists on a continuum (like sanctification and discpleship) some will grow in worldview-ness and some will not, but when salvation comes to a soul the seed of the possibility of a well-formed worldview has most certainly already been planted.

    So that’s my answer: yes and no. 🙂

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